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Originally posted by King Of Kings
This wasnt the first time it happened, like a year ago a man hanged himself during a webcast.

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Originally posted by zizou
Oh man people should grow up and be able to handle life or just vanish like this poor dude supposedly did.

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Originally posted by osiris
If you are feeling suicidal there is no correct way of dealing with it.

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someone who uses the internet to seek attention is usually someone who likes to keep anonymous, but in this case he uses a webcam to show people how serious he was.[/quote

He'd tried it before I think?


I think it's messed up for them to encourage him, I don't care if it's the internet. I remember reading about a guy who jumped from a high car park, and people on the ground had encouraged him to do so. It is no different, and both cases are disgusting.

If you don't care, you wouldn't encourage him.

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One thing that is clear is that no one should try to resolve their issues by going onto the internet . Because the dumb people outweigh the normal people

It's not even that necessarily, it's a crowd like mentality, everyone is anonymous on the internet, so can say, or do what they want. I mean there are many websites, including this one, with people saying things they'd never say face to face.

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Originally posted by BritAbroad
I have been "involved" in some shape or form in four attempted suicides. That sounds wrong, I wasn't egging on, or assisting, but I'll explain.

Two were when people jumped in front of trains that I happened to be travelling on (in the second I had the misfortune of actually seeing it happen due to my seat's positioning and the curvature of the train as it followed a corner in the track - its still ingrained in my mind now, very nasty). In both of these cases, fairly obviously, the person was killed.
These were "surprises". They were in secluded locations away from any people, and there was no warning to the driver or anyone else, and the person just jumped from a bridge or the side. There was no build-up, no attention seeking. These were people who definitely wanted to end it. That's sad, and not to mention very selfish - traumatised train crew and passengers, distraught families and friends... Nine times out of ten, the family and friends didn't even know the person was depressed. They had serious issues and perhaps didn't feel right or "connected". These people need identifying and helping. Unfortunately, I cannot suggest how.


The third was when a person stood on the edge of a bridge over the line at a crowded railway station that I was standing on. He made loud noises and threats, so obviously staff at the station stopped the trains and cut the power, thus meaning the person would most probably not die, just break his legs.
He was attention seeking. He was eventually talked down by a policeman and taken into (protective?) custody. During this incident, for a whole 90 minutes, he had three police units, an ambulance, and a fire crew and a busy station as his captive audience for him to spout about all of his problems. Not to mention the fact that he stopped all rail movements in and out of a busy mainline station, so that he could continue this. That's got to be an ego trip, hasn't it? I think that if he really wanted to end it all, he'd have gone further up the line, out of built up areas, waited for the train to come to him and then stepped in front of it. This was more of a "look at me, I really need help". He may well have had issues, but instead of being able to talk naturally about them, for some reason, he felt the need to try and make people force him to. Intriguing.



As for this character, I'm not sure. A bit of background reading comes up with this:

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On Wednesday he went on the bodybuilding.com forum and detailed the amount of drugs he was going to take. The moderators of the forum reportedly did not take him seriously because of his past threats and other forum members egged him on. “You want to kill yourself?” one said. “Do it, do the world a favour and stop wasting our time with your mindless self-pity.”

I don't know if I'd react differently face to face or over the internet, or if I ever were in the situation, but in my head at least, I'd probably be saying what is quoted there, and I know that makes me sound a bad person. That is my view, and seems to match some people who already have posted in this thread. People who threaten suicide tend not to actually want to go through with it, just want attention and to be made to feel better. Maybe these people aren't evil and heartless, just trying to knock some sense into the lad. Maybe they are sick enough to want to watch, but I don't think everyone would be like that, I know I'm not.
Maybe Abraham Biggs expected people to be sympathetic and caring, without him having to go through with it. He didn't find sympathy to satisfy his craving and just decided to go through with it on the spur of the moment thing. A two fingers or flicking of the bird to everyone who didn't give him attention, to make them feel bad. Or maybe he felt he could only keep these people's attention by going through with it. Who knows?





The fourth suicide I was "involved" in, I have deliberately neglected to mention earlier. It involved me in more of a professional capacity, i.e: the person threatened suicide to try and prevent me from completing one of my routine duties. In that respect its a bit different, which is why I kept it out till the end. He didn't go through with it, so I suppose it was attention-seeking in that he was trying to draw attention to the possible "injustice" that I was about to commit, because of my work.

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Originally posted by BritAbroad
They had serious issues and perhaps didn't feel right or "connected". These people need identifying and helping. Unfortunately, I cannot suggest how.