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Ilwrath

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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 8:24am

Truth be told (history of Urquan)

Birth of this universe...

The first dominators was an alliance called Sharks (which Ahama was a part of) and their top tog was Software. If this alliance would have been allowed to continue to play (most of them was german etc.) instead of banned as they was. Urquan would never have been formed.

There was an alliance called NvM which means "Nevermind" and comes from Burg's notorious guild in Ultima Online. The founders was Slyngel and Burg, and I was the 3rd member. We later got Xorm and a few others to join us. After playing for some time and being our top player I started to discuss with Slyngel about a change of names into something more space-like and he said... sure, I don't care. So I started to think of how this alliance would be organised.

I wanted to form an alliance of roughly 21-25 members where some people was seen as staff members. The leaders, the right hand, minister of defense, spokesman. The rest of the alliance would be divided into cells with 3 members in each, and one of these 3 members was seen as the leader of the cell. All cells was by any time allowed to engage anyone but people which our praised leader have announced we may not attack. However, when i introduced this idea to Slyngel he came up with the idea of having us form "Urquan" from a game he likes which is "Space Control 2" the empire part was added to fit my titles as all of the titles was originally from the Roman empire.

Once Urquan was formed, Slyngel was asked to become a GO which made it impossible to be part of the empire. So I took the role as leader and appointed Xorm as one of my consules (Burg was already a consule). The longer time went on, the more Xorm got responsible of recruiting as Burg nearly didn't recruit anyone eventhough he had full authority to do so. Xorm's constant recruitment of people end with a disagreement between Xorm and me. I must say today that he was some what right but in the same time I still think we needed to form a base for operation which wasn't gonna work with people at so different levels of the game.

One problem I early realized was that the more people we have in our alliance, the less people will we be able to raid, so I wanted to keep the number of members at a low count. I also wanted to make sure Urquan was the top alliance now, and forever...

As the leader of Urquan I kept an eye for what alliances to wage war against. Our first war was against an alliance called DTR or something like that. DJ-Delta's newbie mistake gave me the golden oppertunity to disregard the current NAP between us and launch attacks on them. However, this was another alliance filled with members of illegal countries and was soon banned from playing.

The problem between me and the lower levels of Urquan got worse and I talked to Slyngel about my problems and he came up with the idea of making Urquan empire two different alliances, two alliances that had their own leadership where you lead one, and somebody else the other. I spoke to Xorm about it and he didn't want this to happen, and didn't really want to become the leader of the other alliance, so we spoke about Baalphegor. I asked Baalphegor if she would be interested and she instantly said yes. So everything was set. I took the people I wanted with me to Kohrah, but didn't e.g. bring Ahama because Baalphegors part wasn't supposed to become a toothless tiger.

From here on, I can only speak of Kohrah eventhough many Kzer-Za members still looked at me as the true leader for months and months. Kohrah had only one thing in mind, to keep the top 10 steady, and that with members of Kohrah or if needed some Urquan (Kzer-Za).. At this time, Badger was the number one fella and started to negotiate with RoLue and used his position in Urquan to get a cease fire between all Urquan and RoLUE which he had no authority to do. He had no influense over Kohrah and some of us in Kohrah talked about attacking Badger because of it.

Badger was at doing trades with RoLUE and to protect that he offered me 2 million of each resources in a sort of bribe if I would keep Kohrah off RoLue targets. However, I didn't accept any free resources from Badger as he was the only able to send me resources (due to pushing rules) Badger sent a lot of resources to people within Urquan and others, resources which I today was obtained by pure cheating. So basically a lot of the older Urquan accounts was basicaly helped built up by cheating. (Kohrah was not included in Badgers give out)

We made several policies based upon the race Urquan in a game, and yes Urquan must be seen as tyrants as that's what they are in the game. However, they are simply struggle to keep their own race alive by killing or making slaves of everyone else. This is where the no probing policy comes in, as it gives a good RP'ing story and its very good if people do not dare to gain intelligence on me.

I can easilly say I didn't have any direct problem with RoLUE more than them being in my way. I knew that somebody had to deal with them and that I had to try and split RoLUE, Mara and Rawk. I managed by speaking to Burger and later when I told Baalphegor to suggest an alliance between Urquan (Kzer-Za) and Mara. This is my biggest mistake in Ogame so far. I today regret that I didn't announce fullout war with Mara instead of going after RoLue that after all was somewhat peaceful.

RoLue as we all know it has members that have some sort of problem with keeping a debate at normal levels, they call you names and such. No biggy this, but I decided to use one of these incidents as an excuse to attack their leader "Mystalic" and make a statement about it. To be honest, I didn't attack him because it gained me anything more than reputation and a bit of fear. Fear is a very good concept in war.

RoLue declared war on Kohrah, Urquan and Mara. This was lasted for a very long time, and was first used to really try and crack them. However, neither side was really succesful and the war went into stall.

Universe 1 had come into a situation where everyone just built larger fleets and nobody had anything to fear. Even the admins got bored of this which came to my attention when Burg asked me if it would be possible for me to attack Ahama. I first said I wouldn't like to attack him, as he eventhough a disagreement is in Urquan... the only alliance which Kohrah is allied to. However after more talk and thought about it, I decided to make the attack on Ahama. This to break the situation of no risk in uni1. I didn't want to go into a full war with Urquan, but I would if forced take down more fleets of Urquan if they made any threats against Kohrah.

AFS was formed 10 minutes before Ahama's fleet was killed, and as most of you probably know. I attacked Ahama at 2 different planets and started to raid him to keep him down for a bit. What some of you people have to remember is that Kohrah never broke the Christmas peace, two members of AFS did. AFS had no connections with Urquan whatsoever. We as Alliance of Free Stars, and alliance which in the game Star Control 2 fights against Urquan.

I am quite sure you people have a lot of questions about me and Urquan, please post them here. Keep everything within good manners and please do not spam or flame here. I will answer anything in the best way I can.
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Airhead

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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 8:30am

That was a very good read. :)
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vegso

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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 8:46am

Well awesome and thanks for filling me in, not that you would know much but if you could answer what do you think of Urquan and or Korhas State/situation in ogame right now?
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spacewaste

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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 8:54am

Damn...There's sucha story behind this....

I can't w8 for things liek that in the other uni's :)

Thanks for the read....Although I haven't heard much talk of AFS yet....
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Archainold

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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 9:04am

Good read, I was just starting as this was happening so this is first i've heard...
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Squid

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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 10:29am

*wipes tears from eyes* good read

And this all happened just before I started and finished after I did. Fills up the missing part of the story. 8)

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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 10:38am

interesting
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randomness

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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 10:44am

Good story.

But...I do not understand UrQuan splitting up. You also referred to UrQuan later in the story, I thought it was done, and 2 different alliances were made? Or were you referring to everyone in both of the alliances?
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Tornado

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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 10:49am

after the split Urquan remained one alliance while the split created KhorAh
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slyanimal

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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 1:05pm

Good story, although you mentioned splitting up Mara, RoLUE & RAWK. I was under the impression that Mara & RoLUE have been at each others throats for ages, and that RAWK was a relatively new alliance which has simply had a fairly successful recruitment drive.... (or perhaps I just never really noticed them until recently?)

So yeh what's the kinda story behind these 3 being grouped as one?

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Ilwrath

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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 1:10pm

Quoted

Originally posted by slyanimal
Good story, although you mentioned splitting up Mara, RoLUE & RAWK. I was under the impression that Mara & RoLUE have been at each others throats for ages, and that RAWK was a relatively new alliance which has simply had a fairly successful recruitment drive.... (or perhaps I just never really noticed them until recently?)

So yeh what's the kinda story behind these 3 being grouped as one?


They can't have been that tight as Mara decided to leave that alliance and accept a new alliance with Kzer-Za. However internal RoLue and Mara matters is not of my concern and I can only speak for what I have seen. These 3 was allied to each other, that's all I know.
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rusting

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Date of registration: Jan 9th 2005

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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 2:03pm

well you certainly stirred things up before you left

I started playing on boxing day ,(Dec 26t), the postion now is completley different from then, no longer urquan on top,or anywhere near it, the days off mass alliances have come,






Rank Alliance Member thousand points
1 RoLUE 184 10970
2 Honor 128 5793
3 Mara 45 5768
4 DIM 59 5331
5 CBC 43 4006
6 Empire 84 3918
7 Urquan 51 3817
8 NZSAS 76 3378
9 RAWK 82 2595
10 Infinity 30 2103
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Riddick/KINGOFKNAVES

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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 2:56pm

Hmmm you seem to be forgetting something concerning your attack on Ahama. As I recall then you said some of the reasons being Ahama attacked Peachey and because He attacked Zillxia
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Ilwrath

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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 4:07pm

The reason why I decided to break the no risk situation had nothing to do with Zillxia nor Peachy. However, the reason why I took Ahama was based upon several aspects such as I thought it was low of him to use me and Zillxia's scam that I had attacked him. But the biggest reason of all must be to break the situation.
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rusting

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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 4:15pm

not flaming,you were a great player

But as part of Urquan ,i do find it a little like starting a fight in a pub,then leaving,and watching the fight since you no longer play and were bored, leaving the uni with ally fighting ally
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Hawkmaster

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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 4:41pm

good read up there
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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 5:01pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Ilwrath

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Originally posted by slyanimal
Good story, although you mentioned splitting up Mara, RoLUE & RAWK. I was under the impression that Mara & RoLUE have been at each others throats for ages, and that RAWK was a relatively new alliance which has simply had a fairly successful recruitment drive.... (or perhaps I just never really noticed them until recently?)

So yeh what's the kinda story behind these 3 being grouped as one?


They can't have been that tight as Mara decided to leave that alliance and accept a new alliance with Kzer-Za. However internal RoLue and Mara matters is not of my concern and I can only speak for what I have seen. These 3 was allied to each other, that's all I know.



We dropped that alliance because it was not benefitting any of us. At that time rolue had around 350 members or something. alot of us started around the same time and we simply had no targets, there was nobody but rolue around us to raid. and the few who were not rolue were getting attacked by both mara and rolue, and probably others.

we had to drop it. we never would of grown strong if we kept that alliance going.

the alliance with urquan was actually beneficial. they were not in our way and they actually had strong players.

and as far as rawk... well, i dont even have anything to say about them as they have never played into anything. they were always there but never did much to get attention.
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Tak

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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 5:06pm

This is one of the most interesting "behind the scenes" I have read so far since I have been playing OGame. This explains a lot of stuff people didn't know, or "assumed" to know.

-Tak
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randomness

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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 8:50pm

Thanks Tornado, but the what is the Khzer-Za or whatever?
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Ilwrath

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Sunday, April 3rd 2005, 10:13pm

Kzer-Za is what you see as Urquan. One of the two Urquan spices... Kohrah and Kzer-Za.
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